Wednesday, February 27, 2008

New Carroll links !

I very recently did a reorganization of my sidebar links.

Take a few moments to discover some of the newer additions to the Carroll links.The surname links are now in three categories :

Also included is a category for Carroll reunion sites.

I call upon all those who may have a Carroll website that I have missed, or other Carroll reunion groups. You can e-mail your link address to me ( my address is on my blogger profile), or write me a comment with your info.

I'am currently finishing up an excellent book that I will be posting about the next time. This will take us back to the era of the Molly McGuires, in Schuylkill county.No genealogist who has miner ancestors in the area, can neglect learning about this History.

Have a great day and Happy Hunting to all.

Thursday, February 21, 2008

Lester Hirsh sings about the Schuylkill County, Pa

A musical tour of Schuylkill County.It's a bit lenghty but there is some interesting History and sites.
A look at the place that my Irish ancestors called home.

Sunday, February 17, 2008

A look at my French family

Just a note to say that I have written a genealogy related post on my personal blog.
You may access this post here . This personal blog is named Home in France.

I'am in a photo mood... the post before this one was about my ancetor's photos that I recently put up on the wall at home. But, those of you that know my Carroll blog will already recognize the photos and descriptions.

Some of you that may just be reading this genealogy related blog, may not know my second personal blog.I usually write on non-genealogy topics, usually centered around home life, but also with occasional travel,photo or writing posts.

Once again, ... everyone is welcome at our "Home in France". Come on in.


Friday, February 15, 2008

Working the 1841 British Census

I honestly felt like entitling this post : " Where do I go from here ? ,
All of this after completing my first ever peek at the Britsh Census of 1841.

The ancestor that I was hoping to spot was named Agnes Haines. Because she is linked to my Carroll family, I decided to include her in my research finding on this blog.

Agnes' daughter, Jenny, was the wife of John Joseph Carroll.
It has been over a year that I had been toying with the idea of paying a 72 hour trial with British Origins ( which also includes Wales ).If you don't know this website, you can look at it here . Irish origins are also available for subscription, but Scots origins are free when you subscribe to any of the others.
I was very interested because a 72 hour trial seemed pretty good for myself. At this point in time, Agnes Haines is my only British born ancestor. Because she was born on January 22, 1830, in England ( place still unknown; the date was obtained by another genealogist), she would have logically been in the 1841 Census.

But, every genealogist knows that logic and the Cenus enumerator don't often meet hand in hand...
Some first impressions on working with the 1841 British Census at British origins ?
The research engine was very correct. It allowed you to search either exact spelling,close variants or all variants. I always throw a wide net, so I did all variants for Haines.

Which gave me : Hains,Haynes, Hans, etc.

Since I also did all variants for the first name "Agnes", the results came up with many more Anns' than Agnes'.

The Census listings themselves were clear and well oragnized.It was written in table form with columns detailing place of birth,county of birth, place of residance, etc.On that point, it is easy to read and understand.

The only thing that I regretted that there were no groupings by households, which would have facilitated the job ( lucky though, I only had 4 1/2 pages to study.

That meant that I had to search for the household number of each girl ( the ones within a 5 year range of my ancestor) and do another search to find other Haines in her city and county of residence.
Sometimes, I found what I considered to be whole families ; an adult male, an adult female and several children. It is a shame that in 1841, the enumerator did not put the relationships between the perosns living in a household.

I checked the parent's place of birth... many were both UK born, which eliminates them as my ancestors. Agnes Haines was listed in the 1880 Philadelphia Census as having an English Dad and an Irish Mom.

Tedious, to say the least, but I managed to find some "potential" ancestors. But, I only found NO couples with an Irish born wife ! I don't know if I should wave my white flag or not... I noted all the couples with a wife born "out of county". That's vague... I don't know if they would have put Agnes Haines Irish born Mom in the same category. But then again, I saw no Irish born lady, with a daughter around the age of my ancestor.

To sum up my trial of this paid website, interesting,clear Census charts, even if a lack of household groupings may slow you down ( if you have many Census items to search, you may want to take a longer subscription).

Now, two questions for those of you who know British genealogy :

-Knowing that I have a birthdate to work with , would it be recommended search for the birth info for my selected Agnes/Anne Haines in the census ?

-How is when it comes for British birth information ?

Thank you in advance for any advise you may spare.

Have a nice day.

Tuesday, February 12, 2008

What's new with PA-HR-Access ?

I sent an e- mail to see how Tim Gruber( spokesman for PA-HR-Access )was doing.

For those who don't know this organization, it was started last year to obtain online access to PA death records.There is currently no way to consult these records on the internet, and this group is fighting to change that. The PA-HR-Access website is here .

Tim was telling me of some of his frustrations in convincing Genealogical and Historical associations to join in them.

"A number of historical and genealogy societies we've asked for endorsements and help from haven't been forthcoming. Part of it I believe is because they don't take this cause all that seriously. It's not a priority for them even if they allegedly like the idea. Others are bothered by the notion that if the state is made to have their records on the net they will too".

Mr Gruber urges genealogists to contact their societies that they belong to and get them to get involved in letter writing . Even if you are not a member of a Genealogical Society, send a letter to your County or State society.Currently, 18 groups that have joined with PA-HR-Access.

A website named Census finder, has a list of Genealogical socities in PA. Click
here to find the complete list

Then, to touch a word about support coming from the Legislators...
On the PA-HR-Access website, here, there are currently 7 PA State Representatives and 5 PA State Senators that have given their endorsement ! These are excellent beginnings...

Mr Gruber wrote :
" As for the legislators, a few people are getting rather negative responses. Some seem so condescending they are insulting...Interestingly when I've been able to sit down and discuss the matter I am usually able to win over a legislator. Some have gone from being against or unsure of the idea to liking it a lot. Unfortunately it's not practical for me to meet with all 253 legislators "
Once again, if you want online access to PA death records, and don't like the wait and the costs of the traditional methods, join us !

Write to PA or other Genealogical societies...
Write to the PA Legislators....
Write to the Governor of PA.... ( I wrote my letter to the Governor) .

It's your choice to whom you write and how many times you do it, but make your voice be heard !!

You will find letter models on the PA-HR-Access website to help to write your letter quickly and painlessly. Click here, to find your sample letter.

I'am concerned for my research in Schuylkill County and Philadelphia county( I live outside of the USA),and I join Mr Gruber in his cause.

Thank you to all who join us.