Monday, October 29, 2007

More on Chicago research

I have been learning about some excellent resources for research in IL . Prior to this year, I had never researched in this state. Since discovering our Carroll branches in this state, it has been important to learn about the various resources offered.

My friend Rita has come through again. She offered the links to Illinois Vital Statistics Indexes. Click on the following to access :

Data base of Marriage certificates ( 1763-1900 )

Data base of pre-1916 death certificates

Data base of IL death certificates ( 1916-1950 )

This is a fabulous initiative that I can only dream of for our research in Pennsylvania.

Some promising findings from U.S. Census sources have pinpointed one of the Chicago branches.

1900 Census :

This concerns James Carroll (a.k.a Big Jim ), (1857) and wife Jennie (1865) and his wife Jennie. 3 children are said to have been born from this couple :

-Andrew ( 6/ 1886 )

- Jennie ( also known as Jean ) (3/1888)

- Mary (12/1884).
Also, living with this family are 2 cousins, Lucy (2/1892) and Mary (5/1893) Kelly, both born Pa.

1910 Census :

James and Jennie Carroll are living alone - they list 3 children born and 2 living. It appears that Mary (12/1884) has passed on. Seems there is no indication of a Robert, that I had seen on our family's genealogy papers.

Then, the following information concerns Andrew Carroll :

WW 1 Draft Registration of Andrew J. Carroll (born 6/25/1886), Pa. - he is married w/ children.

1920 Census:

Andrew (policeman-city)
Anna (his wife)

1930 Census Andrew (policeman-city)
Anna (his wife)

Andrew (police)- wife and children:

Gertrude - age 19
Jerome - age 15
Elmer - age 13

There was no Andrew Carroll in the WW II Draft Index at Which leads my friend to think that Andrew, son of James & Jennie Carroll may have passed on before this time. Rita came up with a complete date of death of an Andrew Carroll ( died Cook County - Chicago, Sex (N/S), age, unk. Date of death 8/30/1939 ), that may be the person. Of course, pending confirmation .

Which lead me to search for a Cook County based obituary volunteer look-up . What is an obit volunteer ? These are genealogists who kindly donate their time to look up newspaper obituaries in their local areas. This is no limited just to Cook County and Illinois. There are obituary look up volunteers in many states. Here are some websites :

RAOGK ( Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness). This is not limited just to obits. Here, volunteers do many kind acts; search vital statistics certifiacates, photograph tombstones,and other nice deeds. I have already used the services of the RAOGK volunteers, and have had some excellent help.Sometimes, you may obtain free information; other times, pay for the copies . But, the fees are minimal.

US Genweb project which has a website for each state. There is a lot of good basic information here. It was while I was on the main page at this website, I saw a box marked "Counties of the month- Allegan County MI and Cook County IL " . Great ! I got a direct feed into the county website and could consult the look ups section ! There were obituary look-up volunteers, that can search in the IL newspapers.

If you scroll down the page, there is a list for other type of volunteer researchers; some will research for free, while others will make a copies for a small fee.

It was this morning that I decided to ask for an obit look up with Cook County US GenWeb. I opted to pay a small fee to have copies ( if any obituaries are found, of course).I will keep you all posted of the outcome.

Kudos to you again, Rita :) I'am very grateful for your help.

Good luck to all and have a nice day.

Sunday, October 21, 2007

Our Chicago based Carrolls

When I was a young girl, my Dad ( John Bernard Carroll Jr), used to tell stories about our family.Besides the usual tales about being descendants of kings ( that I can't guarantee !),there have been a few that were more authentic. Among these, my father used to say that we also had kin in Chicago. He mentionned an "uncle" who moved to Chicago.

It turns out that my father was not very far from the truth on this one.

Thanks to the help of my Cousin Gerry and her Uncle Ed, than a recent finding by my friend, Rita Bianchetto,we know that several members of our family left Schuylkill County PA to live in in Chicago.There could be a potentially large branch of the Carrolls in Chicago and the rest of Illinois.

The following are two sons of Andrew Carroll and Catherine Burke who left Schuylkill County to settle in Illinois.

1) Name: James J. Carroll
Born: 1858
Died: 1939 in: Chicago, IL
Married: Date unknown.
Spouse: Jennie (wife of James Carroll)

This is the link here to a previous post that I published about the children and grandchildren of Andrew carroll & Cathrine Burke .

Children of James J Carroll & Jennie :

Andrew Carroll. Chicago Police Officer.
Jean ( Jennie ) Carroll. She was wife of Bernie Borg, of B.B.B. Advertising of NYC).
Robert Carroll.Died at 6 months of age.

I'am lacking further information on the children of James & Jennie.
This is the famous "Big Jim" Carroll that was pro-Molly McGuire. He left Schuylkill County PA, possibly fearing for himself and his family, after the arrestations for various murders after 1875;

I went through the SSDI ( Social Security Death
Index) on the excellent website Family Search. This link is on my sidebar.
There were 4
Andrew Carrolls in Illonois on the SSDI :

1) Andrew "KAROL"
Birthdate : 6 June 1890
Death Date: Apr 1975
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Illinois

Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code: 60091
Localities: Wilmette, Cook, Illinois

2) Andrew CARROLL
Birth Date: 26 Sep 1897
Death Date: May 1977
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Illinois

Death Benefit Localities
Zip Code: 46947
Localities: Logansport, Cass, Indiana

3)Andrew CARROLL
Birth Date: 25 Jun 1885
Death Date: Dec 1963
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Railroad Board
Actual Death Residence: Illinois

Note: This one seems unlikely because of the occupation .

4) The last Andrew CARROLL was born later ( 5 Jul 1911-18 Mar 1997)
Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code: 60464
Localities: Palos Park, Cook, Illinois

I found a Jean Borg :
Birth Date: 16 Mar 1888
Death Date: Apr 1963
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Illinois

Actual Death Residence: Illinois


2) Name: Martin Carroll
Born: 1868 in: Lost Creek, PA
Died: 1940
24 December, 1892, Chicago, Cook County, IL Spouse: Ellen Conroy

On the marriage certificate, there is listed that Martin was 25 years old, and Ellen was 20 years old at the time of their marriage.
Certified by Henry Wulff, the Clerk of Court of Cook County.Date of marriage the 24 December, 1892. Certificate dated, 25 December, 1892.
Religious ceremony performed by John.M. Dunne, Rector-Church of the Blessed Sacrament.

My friend, Rita, had recently e-mailed to me a copy of Martin & Ellen's mariage certificate. Thank you again Rita !

Children of Martin Carroll & Ellen Conroy :

Martin Carroll, born 1890 in Philadelphia, Pa; died 1910.
James Patrick Carroll, 1893; died 1985. He married Josephine Kouba .
Marie Carroll, 1897; died 1993. She married Edward Finnegan

I have a few questions about the date of birth of the first child, Martin.If the 1890 date was correct, could the couple been living together before thier marriage? I'am also lacking information on the surviving children,James Patrick and Marie.

As for James Patrick Carroll, I know that this: 

Birthdate: September 11, 1893, Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States.
Married: Josephine Kouba on July 3, 1919, Chicago, Cook Co,IL. This was seen on Family Search.
Death date: March 6, 1985.

I still have to put my fingers on my other sources for this ancestor ( without a doubt, lost in my papers/DVDs!)

Josephine Kouba was found on Family Search. I have the following information for her:( souce: State of Illinois Certificate of Death):

Birth Date :
February 12, 1895, in  Austria.
Death Date: September 22, 1945 in  Proviso Township, IL, USA Burial at Mont Carmel Cemetery.

Also very interesting, an EXACT match for Marie Finnegan :
Birth Date :18 Apr 1897
Death Date: Dec 1993
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Illinois

Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code: 60137
Localities: Glen Ellyn, Du Page, Illinois

Then of course, we cannot forget the mother to James J Carroll & Martin Carroll;
Catherine Burke. She moved to Chicago towards 1899-1900. She lived there 3 years before passing away in Chicago on April 3, 1904;
I presume that she lived with either James or Martin and their familes.

This is just the start on this research.Seeing that the dates of death are incomplete( they list just the month & year; the day is missing), for those Carrolls that I listed above, I cannot ask a volunteer genealogist to help me. They require a complete date of death to work with newspapers. Old newspapers or microfilms of them, often provide obituaries. Often, they are a precious source of information on names of family members.
However, I can ask a Genealogy volunteer to search for a possible obit for Catherine Burke, in the old Chicago newspapers. She passed away the 3 April, 1904. With a little bit of luck, we could have other information on the family.

I will get started on that.

Have a nice day and Happy hunting to all.

P.S. A big Hello to members of my Carroll family in Pennsylvania, and throughout the neighboring states.Thank you Gerry, for passing the word among the family about this blog .

Friday, October 12, 2007

Celebrating our family's musical talents (II)

My research seems to be tapering down a bit, but I'am still going through the family photos.

A sincere Thank you again to my cousin Peggy in California. She was able to find two very pretty photos of her mother( and my aunt), Virginia ( Carroll) Jefferds at the organ. This is one of the photos that she graciously sent to me. I had some problems downloading the second photo on this blog.

This is my Aunt Virginia, playing the organ at a friend's house.The photo is unfortunately undated, but I would say that this was taken in the 1960's ( remembering her hairstyle that was similar in other photos taken during this period).

This beautiful and talented lady was the daughter of John Bernard Carroll Sr. and Mary Agnes Hansen. My father's only sibling.

My cousin said to me in her letter that Aunt Virginia played the organ at weddings for many years. She was like that; happy to share her music with others. Among my cousins in California and Minnesota, only the younger ones play an instrument on a regular basis.These include several children of my cousins, such as Mike ( cousin Kathy's son), who plays drums, and Chrystel ( Cousin Patsy's daughter), who plays banjo in a local blue grass band. And, there may other younger cousins that I have forgotten who study music in Intermediate or High school.

The musical genes still seem to be alive and kicking in the family !

Have a nice day and happy hunting .